This continues the post above (
An Amateur Looks at Old World/New World Copper Sources and Replies to a Critic of his Method(I) [Sunday, 19 October 2025]). The author's response, basically, is a very good illustration of the issue I raised on my reading of his original text, the huge amount of verbiage does nothing to answer the main core point. I expressed my view that the original paper does not present the case the author is trying to examine in a way that helps a reader - faced with a dump of facts - to understand the points being made and the way the argument is constructed. That is my point, it is not enough to have a good idea, but what matters in any academic endeavour (i.e., in getting that idea considered, debated and accepted by the thought community such as that of Academia.edu) is the ability to argue it and present it. This is why journals and academic books have editors. Learning how to write is part of the process of learning to be part of the academic world. I pointed out this author really needs to work on his presentation if he wants to take part in discussion with the academic (archaeometllurgical and archaeological) milieu.
The term 'pseudoarcheology' is often treated by those who produce this kind of material (often in the form of mere 'content') as some kind of perjorative slur. It is not. Archaeology, basically, is (I would hold) "the study of the past through its material remains by the application of archaeological methodology(ies)". So metal detecdting abnd hoilking a coin of Coinstantine the Great out of the ground is NOT (I say) "archaeology". It is relic hunting. What would make it archaeoplogy is noting the context and associations of that find with the surrounding evidence - not as an isolated trophy of the past known from the written recoreds and Wikipedia. The key word there is METHOD. Has Ricardo Calvário done that? I say the structure of his paper and what he includes, but what he omits, means he has not.
Mr Calvário (like most of the "misunderstood" pseudoarchaeologists playing the victim), sees the issue as something else:
That is how science proceeds: by confrontation with data, not by adherence to convention. The true task of scholarship is not to defend inherited narratives, but to question them - repeatedly, and without fear of discomfort. [...] The refusal to engage with evidence is not scepticism - it is belief masquerading as science. [...] an appeal: that archaeology, and indeed all science, recover the humility of its method - the willingness to doubt itself. Every new piece of evidence, however inconvenient, enlarges our understanding of the human story. To reject inquiry in favour of dogma is to abandon the very principle that once made discovery possible.
There is no "dogma", "belief" or "inherited narratives" here. Neither is what he has churned out any real presentation of "evidence". I do not see here any "discovery" in what is simply a literature-bound presentation of one principle that boils down (if I read through the verbiage to two propositions and a "what if?" speculation:
1) There is a(n unquantified) "lot of" metalwork in the Old World in what the author calls "the copper age" and yet there is not a lot of evidence from the identified ore-production sites in the Old World for the degree (unquantified) of output that would have supplied the required amounts (unquantified) of raw material to make it all. This produces for him a "mystery" (or paradox)
2) In a group of sites in North America there are signs of native copper production on such a scale (in one place he claims 500,000 tonnes) throughout what he calls the Copper Age and yet so few native copper artefacts from excavated contexts and surface finds in the USA (Amircas as a whole?) - which produces for him a "mystery" (or paradox).|
3) "What if" there were big boats plying the Atlantic in the "Copper Age" taking North American native copper back to "the Old World" (where? who pioneered, who organized it?) (was it a Native American initiative, or the ["more sophisticated"?] White Men from Europe and the Mediterranean who were running this hypothetical show?).
That's it, isn't it?
Right, so "evidence".
1) I said (and stand by the view that), before engaging in any "what if?", the first point is to look at the
chemical content (and variabilities in) the Michigan copper sources. A sampling programme should be the starting point.And of course "99% pure" is not the kind of analysis needed, it's trace elements, some kind of signature that would allow North American copper to be identified
if it turns up in the prehistoric "Old World". Ricardo Calvário has not started with that.
2) How many of the European (say) and Old World copper alloy items of the "Copper Age" (which Mr Calvário dates to "1000BC) have the specific
form of items made from hammered native copper? There are some of course, but (since he takes his "Copper Age" well into
the European and Nordic Bronze Age) the vast majority of Bronze Age copper alloy items found are cast - so why
not from smelted ores?
4) [proposition 1a] There is a(n unquantified) "lot of" metalwork in the Old World in what the author calls "the copper age"
[proposition 1b] and yet there is not a lot of evidence from the identified ore-production sites in the Old World for the degree (unquantified) of output that would have supplied the required amounts (unquantified) of raw material to make it all.
The impression that there is a "lot of metal" (which he really needs to actually quantify) is due to teh fact that over most of Europe and the adjacent areas, the archaeological study of the Bronze Age is (over, in my opinion)- focussed on hoards, hoard recovery (those "good old metal detectorists", but they were also very visible to pre-1914 ploughmen and labourers), hoard typology and hoard display ("wottalotta-stuff-we've-got") in museums. There are a LOT of them. But that is the point, these metal objects were (for whatever reason- let's not go there) deliberately PUT INTO the ground, perhaps as a marker, sign, coimmunication - but a communication of material 'wealth'. So that's what we notice.
In the entire continent of North America were the 'Archaic' communities deliberately burying hoards? Mr Calvário does not tell his readers. So if the dead were disposed of (as some were) in raised platform burials out in the open, in some remote place, any copper put onto the corpse would be lying loose today in the ploughsoil or subsoil somewhere in a forest or field and very difficult for the modern archaeologist or amateur to find - by metal detectorists or arrowhead collectors or arechaeological fieldwealkers for example.
The point is that the archaeological record is rarely like that at Pompeii, where tonnes of ash fell fronm the sky in a short time burying everything that was not hastily removed as some people fled leaving a 'frozen' record of life-as-lived. The "pompeii premise" cannot be applied here, we have socially-conditioned deposition on different sides of the Atlantic. So Mr Calvário is comparing unlike with unlike - pears and apples. Yet does not seem to want to be aware of that (or if he is, he's not accounting for it in his reasoning).
As for the
mines. Mr Calvário selectively "presents" some 40 of them. But the presentation is rather brief. Neither does he consider which sites may have been in use that we do not yet know about (hence my point about the recent introduction of the possible Ukrainian sources into the discussion). The problem with copper sources (both the rare native and not-so-common ore) on this side of the Atlantic is they are often "point" (usually formed on the margins of discrete intrusions) rather than massive widespread and continuous deposits like iron ore. This means that if three thousand years ago someone stumbled across one in the Ur-forest and his community exploited it and the pits the dug silted up, modern geological survey could have missed some of them (the same problem exists in sorting out minor lithic sources). More to the point, many of these sites contaiuned more ore, that was acxcessible to deeper and deeper digging with new techniques. A lot of the prehistoric mines (like some of the British ones) are today poorly preserved in the edges of more modern - medieval and post-medieval/early industrial workings. This is why I think Mr Calvário needed to include more details and a PLAN of each of the sites he discusses. His covereage is not enough for the reader to use what he has written as a guide to "how much" was extracted in his "Copper Age" from each of them.
By the way - with regard some other pseudoarchaeological guff, he mentions actual evidence from some of these sites of cutting through rocks like conglomerate and basalt by pounding with hammerstones. The "Ancient Architectural Mysteries - Must-be-a-Lost-Technology" crowd of pseudoarchaeological sensationalism would have it that you "cannot do this".
5) [Proposition 2a] In a group of sites in North America there are signs of native copper production on such a scale (in one place he claims 500,000 tonnes) throughout what he calls the Copper Age
[Proposition 2b]and yet so few native copper artefacts from excavated contexts and surface finds in the USA (Americas as a whole?) that is a paradox [where did all that copper go?]
This paper is about (playing down?) the Old World sites, so that'd be his excuse for writing little over a page presenting the Michigan sites (2025, unnumbered pages in the text somewhere between the beginning and the end, near the end). No location map, site plan, no real details. As an example of the pathetic referencing citesd as sources, here we have the ones for this complex of sites:
"References
1. Archaeological History of Isle Royale and Ancient Copper Mining. (2024). U.S. National Park
Service.
2. Michigan Back Roads Copper Country Mystery. michiganbackroads.com. [incomplete link]
3. Pompeani, D. P., et al. (2014). Miners Left a Pollution Trail in the Great Lakes 6000 Years Ago.
Eos, 95. [no page numbers]
4. Martin, S. R. (1995). Wonderful Power: The Story of Ancient Copper Working in the Lake
Superior Basin. Wayne State University Press.
5. Whittlesey, C. (1863). "Ancient Mining on Lake Superior." Smithsonian Contributions to
Knowledge, 13, 1–29.
6. Timeline of Michigan Copper Mining Prehistory to 1850. (2025). Keweenaw National Historical
Park. [fails to reveal this is a website: https://www.nps.gov/kewe/learn/historyculture/copper-mining-timeline.htm]
7. Pompeani, D. P., et al. (2023). "Native Americans Conducted Large-Scale Copper Mining 6000
Years Ago." Scientific American. [volume number, full list of authors? page numbers?]
8. Pompeani, D. P., et al. (2021). "On the Timing of the Old Copper Complex in North America."
Radiocarbon. [volume number, full list of authors? page numbers? What is dated, the mines, or the "complex"? ]
9. Pompeani, D. P., et al. (2022). "Refining the chronology of North America's copper using
traditions." PLOS ONE. [volume number, full list of authors? page numbers? What is dated, the mines, or the "complex"? ]
10. Pompeani, D. P., et al. (2024). "Lead isotope analysis of native copper deposits in the Lake
Superior Basin." Archaeometry. " [no volume number, page numbers or full list of authors - lead isotopes are nowhere mentioned in the text about these mines]"
None of these references is linked in any way as supporting evidence to any specific statement in the text. This is what I mean by calling this style of reference useless. Mr Clavario misunderstands how to actually make it so that the "evidence" he adduces is in any way "supported by more than 100 academic papers" as he naively claims. That's not "dogma", it is called "putting your money where your mouth is". He should show his reader on Academia.edu where he gets the information he has selected from.
The text here concentrates on just one mine complex, and from it, there is no way to assess what is being said about the scale of production. Some numbers are cited, but there is no way to form a picture of their basis.
How did Native American Old Copper Complex communities use and deposit used copper items? Mr Calvário does not say (I'd like to know about the scale of deposition in 'wet' conditions - rivers, streams, springs and lakes), he does not say - but it would have an influence on moderrn retrieval rates (crucial for his "argument"). Context.
6) ["What if" speculation]: "perhaps" there were big boats plying the Atlantic in the "Copper Age" taking North American native copper back to "the Old World"
Not a lot is said in Mr Calvário's text about this. "The mine activity peaked around 2500 BC,
declining abruptly by 1000 BC". So what actual CONCRETE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE is there for transatlantic voyages in 2500BC? What boats were used (construction? Docking?), howe many crew? Were the miners on the boats or were they just metal-middlemen buying at distant source from local miners? What were the products exchanged for all that metal (what archaeological traces of this exchange are there at both ends of the route)? Or was the metal taken by force (any traces of this, for example fortifications in Michigan in 2500BC)? Where did the transatlantic voyagers dock in the Old World, and what traces are there of the commodities market and distribution of the foreign metal? Who pioneered this trade/exchange/exploitation (what traces are there it even existed)? Who organized it? Some kind of an elite? Was this transatlantic connection a Native American initiative, or was it some ["more sophisticated"?] White Men from Europe and the Mediterranean who were running this hypothetical show (as was believed in America in the 19th century when the Old Copper Complex was first discovered)? How far has Mr Calvário's model come from this one.
There are more questions and considerations, suffiuce yto say I (still) find the presentation of this argument lacking in its methodology in almost every respect and falling far short of the author's aim to present "
conclusive evidence, supported by more than 100 academic papers, that the Copper Age of the Old World could not have existed without the Trans-Atlantic trade of Copper from the UP area of the US".