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Friday, 5 December 2025

Archaix: "Archaeology's Lies About the Age of Gobekli Tepe"

 Archaix   

The Ongoing Gobekli tepe Psyop
The 'experts' claim Gobekli and other tepe sites are dated circa 8000 BCE, but they completely ignore that effigies, architectural styles and pillars at Gobekli perfectly match other site around the world dated precisely at 2500-1800 BCE. In fact, further excavation has been halted because more and more they are uncovering evidence that Gobekli tepe isn't anywhere near as old as they claimed. Gobekli Tepe was same culture as Catal Huyuk, all the tepes and huyuk sites, with Jericho and the similarities to Easter Island can not be ignored. 3800-2300 BCE. The Sumerian E.DINs were places man was banished from. That history began in 3895 BCE with the Adam and Eve Genesis reset, a worldwide destruction that sent mankind back to Year One. The tepes, like Gobekli tepe, are located where the story began. The academic claim that the builders suddenly buried their own sites is ridiculous. Gobekli Tepe, all the Tepe and Huyuk sites were buried in a Phoenix catastrophe.

His video "Gobekli Tepe: A 70 Year Old Lie Became a 12,000 Year Old Truth" ( Archaix Jan 30, 2023)



and the dating? Here's what he claims: 
"We are told that Gobekli Tepe in Turkey dates to about 9500 BC to 8200 BC. We’re told that it’s old because it was underground and that it dates to the Pre-Pottery Neolithic. That sounds really impressive.

Now, for those who don’t know, the Pre-Pottery Neolithic is a term invented by Kathleen Kenyon. She believed she came from a monkey, so Kathleen Kenyon, when she found that the earliest levels of Jericho did not have pottery shards (she found this out around 1952 to 1954), coined the term “Pre-Pottery Neolithic” for what she found at Jericho’s ruins.

And then the scientific establishment overlaid her new system and description over the entire world, from one little excavation at Jericho. So the new dating assumption over the entire topography of the world was established by the established scientific community. Now that they did that, any archaeological sites that do not yield pottery shards are to be dated at 9500 BC to 8200 BC. My friends, that’s how simple it is. That is exactly how they got the Pre-Pottery Neolithic model. It’s just weird".

What is weird is that he should think (and presume to misinform his readers) that this is how the site is dated.  

This really needs to be seen together with this video: 'A Total Dismantling of Hancock's 9600 BCE Atlantis Dating' (Jul 21, 2023):


This really takes the cake, views of how to read the King Lists (and whether one COULD expect them to tally with the Hebrew Scriptures) have really moved on since the eighteenth century "sources" he cites. As has our understanding of the Egyptians' understanding of the calendar. The video is excruciatingly repetetive. 


Saturday, 5 April 2025

A Superior American Gobekli Tepe as Justification of Online MAGAmerican Pseudoarchaeological Turk-bashing


Frankly the MAGAmerican critics of the foreign GobekliTepe site display like You Tubers Jimmy Corsetti (@BrightInsight6) and Mike Collins () seem to think themselves in some way superior to the Turkish archaeological resource management milieu and miss no opportunity to slag them off in very nasty bad faith and frankly ill-mannered terms.

Let us take a look at how well their own country deals with sites like this. Of course the USA has no structures, still less monumental ones from the immediate post-Younger Dryas times to compare with Gobekli Tepe, but we can look at major sites of the (near contemporary) Clovis and Folsom fluted point types that have been displayed like this.

The first that comes to mind is the covered display of the excavated Blackwater Draw site in Roosevelt Co, New Mexico where the site museum just blends into the landscape...

Google Earth

here you are, impressive, eh? "Just" as good as Gobekli Tepe, eh Mr Corsetti? ...

http://lithiccastinglab.com/gallery-pages/blackwaterinterpretivewelllrg.htm

let's take a look inside. Oh dear, and those walls, do they have any foundations? No? Awkward. As for the comments that a whole bunch of self-absorbed mouthy MAGAmericans are addressing to the Turkish authorities, the "excavation does not seem to have made much progress" since the 1990s, "looks like a tourist site", no, @BrightInsight6? Is there some kind of a qualitative difference between this and what we can see at Gobekli Tepe? Do you not owe the Turks and the excavation team an apology?

Site museum, note foundations cut down below level of finds, 
excavation incomplete (as was criticised in the case of Gobekli)
https://www.newmexico.org/listing/blackwater-draw-museum/2255/

Here's a video of this US interpretive centre (looks a bit of a tip inside to me) but @BrightInsight6 and the MAGAmerican critics think it is the Turks who are "not coming up to global standards"


posted on You Tube by Eastern New Mexico University Nov 24, 2020

Then we could compare the Turkish site with the manner of display of the contemporary excavated Murray Springs Arizona Clovis site - but here there are no buses to take tourists to the visiting area but a 1.2km hike

Google Earth

Or we could compare Gobekli Tepe to the concreted paths and covered area of the display of contemporary partially excavated Lindenmeier site in Larimer Co, Colorado with a roof with posts dug deep into site, just like the US YouTubers complain they area at Gobekli Tepe. 

Google Earth

In comparing the online community's trashing of the work done at Gobekli Tepe, we cannot miss out the covered display of contemporary partially excavated (+pre-Clovis) Gault site in Texas partially quarried away. Definitely one that visitors to the USA interested in the country's past should not fail to see. 

Google Earth 
 
I really think that tourists from Trump's America with their smug superiority and entitlement need first to take a good hard and objective look at how their own country deals with its own heritage before loudly slagging off the efforts of others. 

Monday, 7 April 2025

Mike Collins' "Shocking Film" on Alleged Archaeological Malpractice at Gobekli Tepe (I) Introduction


Jimmy Corsetti, the YouTube content creator behind the channel "Bright Insight," lives in the United States, but prefers to make his money from gathering a following of people (probably also largely from the States) focussed on hate-posting, attacking, denigrating, insulting academics and heritage professionals from other countries and the way they go about things. One of his favourite targets are the archaeologists and heritage managers of Egypt, Turkey and Lebanon. He has in particular taken aim at the work done by the Taş Tepeler project led by Professor Dr. Necmi Karul, the Turkish Ministry of Culture and Tourism and Sanliurfa Museums, involving collaboration with teams from various global universities including Japan, England, Germany, Italy, and Turkey (but not the USA).  

Corsetti adopts a deep scepticism toward mainstream archaeology and scientific consensus, paired with a fascination for alternative interpretations of human history. He portrays the past as a realm of advanced, ancient civilizations —older and more sophisticated than conventionally accepted— whose existence he believes has been suppressed or misrepresented by a corrupt academic establishment. Corsetti accuses archaeologists of mismanaging or neglecting sites, which he claims stifles genuine discovery. His approach advocates for a populist reclamation of history, urging open investigation over institutional gatekeeping, often framing official narratives as not just flawed but deliberately deceptive, while promoting his own explorations as a truer path to understanding our "lost past."

His hate-posting masquerading as a contrarian 'alternative' history has for the past eight years or so focused on the production of videos (mostly for YouTube - where he claims 1.6 million followers). Quite a few of them have been on the topic of Gobekli Tepe. In the latest effort he partners with Mike Collins of "Wandering Wolf Productions" (@WWolfProd) a YouTuber and Film producer/Drone operator making content on "Ancient History, featured on Netflix, History channel, Discovery" from Austin, TX. He created this scandal-mongering clickbait on the site at Gobekli as the first of several he made while travelling there in March 2025 with Corsetti and a female US blogger:

"GOBEKLI TEPE: Olive Trees Removed! Shocking Footage! (2025 Update) w/‪@BrightInsight‬ and ‪@NikkianaJones‬ "
Posted on You Tube by Wandering Wolf Apr 3, 2025
Below I discuss some aspects of this film and why the scandal is more their approach to the work done by foreign archaeologists, and their own behaviour as foreign guests in Turkey, than what they smugly attempt to besmirch. Shame on them.

A note on the olive trees issue (00:06 - 00:40 and 02:06 - 02:40) since they do not actually write Turkish, they rather overestimate their own "importance" in somehow directing the hand of the Turkish heritage managers and effecting "change". This is the fallacy of correlation implying causation. For the trees in general see my post: "Immortal Olive Trees" at Gobekli Tepe?". 
 

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To better organise this Brandolino response the text is divided into several separate posts under the common title: Mike Collins' "Shocking Film" on Alleged Archaeological Malpractice at Gobekli Tepe 

(I)   Introduction





I hope that clarifies some issues for good faith actors among the people confused by the accusations being  thrown out by these three US clickbait farmers.



Wednesday, 1 October 2025

Archaeologists "Squirming"


@alg678 1 day ago When I was at uni as an anthro major we learned Clovis Doctrine, and learned that modern humans were 100k years old. Now Clovis Doctrine has been totally overturned, and we know modern humans are AT LEAST 300k years old. Watching the conventional academics squirm as more and more evidence piles up for lost ancient technology and extended timelines is exhilarating.
@PortAntissues 19 hours ago
Can you actually show us this "squirming", or is that just hyperbole?
@alg678 17 hours ago
@PortAntissues Sure. Redefining the entire concept of "hunter-gatherer" in order to avoid the evidence at Gobekli Tepe is peak squirming.
Oh. First of all @alg678, there are no Egyptian stone vases from Gobekli Tepe (which is a single site in Turkey)… aside from that, please show me (with a quote from an archaeology book) "how hunter-gathering was defined” by archaeologists before the evidence from Gobekli Tepe and (with a quote from an archaeology book) how it “was defined” by “squirming” archaeologists after the evidence from Gobekli Tepe. Also, since there have been many studies of hunter-gathering economies since 1996 when the term came into more general use, how can you be sure that it was Gobekli Tepe that was the catalyst for any change you can demonstrate?

Friday, 26 December 2025

Some People Never Learn (I)


A graduate of the US's Samantha Fulnecky schooling system Jimmy Corsetti (@BrightInsight6 Dec 21), "Investigator of Lost Ancient History"* reckons:
Establishment (sic) Archaeologists are going to be BIG mad over my upcoming video. See all this dirt, stone and rubble? Excavating Gobekli Tepe is a literal rubble removal project 💯 Archaeologists have SO many things wrong about this site, I think their heads are gonna explode 😂"
Namely:
"My latest video is now LIVE on YouTube [fire emoticon] "What They FOUND at Gobekli Tepe MUST be Addressed..." There was a significant discovery made at Gobekli Tepe in involving a human Statue, which raises many serious questions about what is one of the world’s oldest, most mysterious, AND arguably the MOST important ancient archaeological site on earth.

 Here's this allegedly "explosive" video....

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The crux of this revelation (Jimmy Corsetti @BrightInsight6 Dec 23):
"Ain’t no way whoever initially built Gobekli Tepe put this Statue here… Archaeologists absurdly claim this was a 12K yr old sacred offering to the Gods, deliberately placed under this sloppy wall of crude rubble as a gift… Give me a break. This was clearly REPURPOSED, and *not* a ‘votive offering’ worthy of the eminence of Gobekli Tepe and its sophisticated T-Pillars. SOURCE: Uh, just look at it and use your God given discernment, et al.
Oh, and Noah was real, and he and his three sons (Shem, Ham, and Japheth of the foundation myth) built this site as their post-Flood "altar" (where they heard the Lord's Testament) on the slopes of Ararat (the mountains of Urartu), including excavating out all the sunken special buildings and cutting, hauling and erecting all those "pillars" that gets Corsetti so orgasmic. I am sure there is a way this makes sense to him and his slackjaw followers among his Biblical-literal countrymen. Personally, I'm not so impressed by a self-professed "investigator of lost ancient history" who's not gone into the background of the book of Genesis and the stories, fables and made-up nonsense that it contains. I see no link with the (actual) Biblical narrative and the Sanli Urfa region. Corsetti does not enlarge on why he does, but he's several timres in the past referred to the "pillars with the pictures of animals on them" to Noah's Ararat-altar. So I do not know why "establishment archaeologists" are going to be "head-explodingly mad" over his repeated unsupported statements about what HE believes. Of the few archaeologists that pay attention, bemused maybe. Corsetti has no credibility because it is clear he does not know or understand what he's looking at. 

This is despite people telling him what the site consists of. Repeatedly. Including by people who actually dig there. Corsetti's latest provocatively arrogant response to that?
"Jimmy Corsetti @BrightInsight6 Dec 21
The walls are not original. I understand you think they are, but despite your credentials, you’re wrong and simply don’t understand what you’re looking at!"/ The T-Pillars are original. The sloppy crude walls are not.
He's been to the site, in his "danger mouse disguise", but was too busy posing to look all that closely at the stratigraphic relationships between the walls and the adjacent pillars, some of which are so clearly built INTO the walls that their bases stand on the lower courses. What a buffoon.




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Monday, 7 April 2025

Mike Collins' "Shocking Film" on Archaeological Malpractice at Gobekli Tepe (VI): "Tree Busters" Seriously?

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Wandering Wolf Productions ( @WWolfProd · Apr 3) proclaims: "We went to see the trees removed and ending up walking into a hornets nest of controversy after realizing the trees may be the least of our concerns". Sic, "our" concerns... as who, precisely? 

GOBEKLI TEPE: Olive Trees Removed! Shocking Footage! (2025 Update) w/ @BrightInsight & @NikkianaJones.
The claim is that allegedly "nobody" saw a problem that olive trees had been planted across the hilltop at Gobekli Tepe. That means... the Turkish authorities, the conservation services, those projecting developing this site as a heritage attraction, the Turkish archaeologists or the foreign archaeologists they hosted at the minimum.  Allegedly, the only people "concerned" were some US-based pseudoarchaeologist YouTubers and their followers who were using this as clickbait to get engagement with their "context" and thus gain revenue from the clicks. Pre-eminent among these shitstirrers was "popular researcher, and educator" Jimmy Corsetti. Writing only in English (no Turkish posts were involved),  they created more and more of a fuss by throwing out accusations based on their "common sense" layman's approach to tree toots. Attempts were made by members of the archaeological community (and of the above-listed, it was only the English-speaking archaeologists) to address the points made and paint a more balanced picture of the issue.  These however got thrown back in their faces and their remarks were used as a basis for more attacks (including personal attacks on a number of them specifically). This may be reliable clickbait material for those exploiting this exchange financially, but hardly advancing much understanding. Then the YouTuber community learnt that the trees were being removed and immediately Corsetti was claiming that he was the one who had brought this about.  
the stage was set for this trip over the last year as my good friend Jimmy corsetti from Bright Insight blasted the archaeological community for their defense and lack of speaking out against the trees covering unexcavated areas at one of the world's oldest and most important archaeological sites. The public push back created the environment necessary to enact real change and his continued persistence demanded accountability that actually resulted in the trees being removed. So now seem like the perfect time to see the site document for ourselves how Gobekli Tepe was being excavated cared for and managed in the midst of all this change and controversy

Note the video does not actually say very much about the trees. The authors drove through a landscape covered in olive groves, they are a major element of the cultural landscape of this region. Yet the team did not film any of them pointing this out, still less explore for example an old olive press to discuss the economic role of their cultivation. 

What is notable is that there was no interview with a single Turk about this issue, for example with a representative of the heritage management authorities about the "campaign" that had allegedly brought about this "change" (for example introducing Mr Corsetti in person) or about what was being done to remove the trees without damaging the site. It was all very ad hoc, filming the activity from afar and through the fence. 

Actually, it seems the real intent had been all along  was not to ("accidentally") "walk into a hornets' nest of controversy", but to actually start up another clickbait controversy at the expense of the archaeologists and Turkish authorities now the trees issue could no longer be exploited financially. 


  






Tuesday, 11 June 2024

The "Antithesis of Archaeology" According to Archaeo-Conspiracy Theorist

      Look at the stratigraphy
Jimmy Corsetti ( @BrightInsight6) is a clickbait-creating digital media personality specialising in making videos with crap takes on the ancient past [see: Archaeofabulation: "Roman Map shows Atlantis in the Green Sahara"]. He has now pronounced "Archaeology today is in a state of total disarray" and it's because he does not understand what is happening about Gobeli Tepe. He does not understand about excavation research design, sponsorship, site preservation, site presentation. so he's produced this:
You will NOT BELIEVE this Gobekli Tepe update. It’s genuinely shocking and disturbing.
This is probably my most important video yet. The details are explosive 💥

He's upset that not more of the Gobeli Tepe site was excavated, and some of it has even been backfilled. Then there is a walkway and access to the site is a source of concern. Who's going to tell him?  What I note here is the total lack of mention in his rant about proper publication. This is a site with some complex stratigraphy, and most of the photos we see are with the fill taken out. I'd like to find out how the various phases of the infilling (several layers visible in the photos of upstandiung baulks)  relate to several phases of drystone wall construction with inserted megalithic T-stones. I'd like to see how that was documented and how it is interpreted before somebody takes spade to another part of this site. 

Jimmy Corsetti sees only the pictures on the stones of "handbags". and where hands rest on tummies. Then, putting on his best "me, me, entitled" look he fulminates: 

"I honestly cannot believe the current state of modern archaeology today, it appears to have been corrupted or at best totally mismanaged at such a level that is now preventing us from actually learning information about our ancient past. I mean to have an archaeological dig and not dig it up is the antithesis of actual Archaeology, is it not? So at this time I am calling on all archaeolologists, anthropologists, historians, skeptics and enthusiasts of ancient history alike to speak out about this incredible injustice what we now have in front of us is a unique opportunity to come together in one common goal which is to champion for further excavation at Gobekli Tepe. FREE GOBEKLI TEPE!

Friday, 11 April 2025

The Gobekli Tepe Tree Lie


                            Corsetti on site March 2025                      
Jimmy Corsetti (on X as @BrightInsight6) and his supporters claim that US social media personality Corsetti had caused the removal of the groves of olive trees growing around the excavations at  Gobekli Tepe by drawing attention to the "damage" done by "the archaeologists" failing to snap their fingers and get the trees the  planted there by the landowners in the 1990s. He arrogantly claims sole credit and states they were only removed because of  his online "campaign" on his YouTube channel. 

Jimmy Corsetti began discussing the alleged damage caused by olive trees at Göbekli Tepe around mid-2024, with specific posts gaining traction in August 2024. For instance, on August 25, 2024, he posted about hundreds of olive trees planted on top of ancient ruins, claiming their roots could destroy the site and that Turkey’s Olive Law #3573 made it illegal to cut them down, framing it as a “coverup”. His claims about the olive trees centred on their roots damaging unexcavated structures and preventing further digs. 

He is now claiming that his personal advocacy through videos and social media is what prompted Turkish authorities to remove and relocate approximately 1,000 trees, a process he celebrated as a “BIG Win” in posts from early 2025. The tree removal began around February 2025, as reported by Türkiye Today, with archaeologist Professor Necmi Karul confirming the trees were being relocated to protect the site.

However, evidence predating Corsetti’s campaign indicates the issue of olive trees at Göbekli Tepe was already known and being discussed and the formal arrangements being made (the trees were the property of the landowners and could not be removed without first sorting out the legal and financial arrangements).  Karul, in July 2024 just before Corsetti's interest in the matter (and possibly the factor initiating the YouTuber's muckraking) noted that tree removal had already been under discussion for some time, driven by landowners’ admissions and the excavation team’s efforts to relocate them safely. This concerns for example a July 2024 statement reported by Türkiye Today and again in  Türkiye Today on February 13, 2025, based on an interview or statement to Anadolu Agency (AA).

 Critically, while Corsetti claims his campaign spurred the removal, no direct evidence confirms Turkish authorities acted solely due to his efforts. Mainstream archaeology dismisses Corsetti’s conspiracy narrative. The Global Heritage Fund and archaeologists like Lee Clare have documented ongoing excavations and tree management since the 1990s, with Clare stating in 2024 that the trees were monitored to avoid damage and even helped stabilize soil. Discussions and plans for tree management predated Corsetti's posts on the topic in August last year and are tied to longstanding archaeological practices and landowner issues. 

No conclusive evidence supports Corsetti's claim that his advocacy was the sole catalyst for the removal.  

Update 4.5.2025
This video corrects pseudo-archaeologist Jimmy Corsetti's false claim that no plan ever existed to remove the olive trees on the Gobekli Tepe archaeological site before he agitated for it.
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Saturday, 5 April 2025

"Immortal Olive trees" at Gobekli Tepe?



YouTuber and tour guide Mike Collins recently posted up to a video on the removal of trees from the outluying areas of the tell on top of the hiss at Gobekli Tepe due to the insistence of the Turkish heritage protection authorities. Two things should be noted:

1) this action has NO connection with teh archaeological team working on the site - who are there as 'guests' of the same archaeological resource management authorities (still less foreign archaeologists giving their opinion about the situation) and

2) Despite his own self-aggrandising claims, this had nothing to do with the clickbait hate campaign conducted on his Twitter account by US YouTuber Jimmy Corsetti (who appears not to be able to read or write Turkish) slagging off at every opportunity the work of the Turkish authorities in a xenophobic and orientalist attack egging on his 188.9K followers to participate, which - being the gathering of gullible hate-filled social inadequates he has gathered around him - they did. The decision to remove the trees was taken after they had fulfilled their function (in raising the compensation landowners would get for the appropriation of their fields by the state). There seems to be some misapprehension about the "damage trees do" to archaeology. Corsetti's followers and a lot of others simply accept his unqualified statement that "trees damage archaeological remains" and therefore the Turks allowing trees to grow on a farmer's land on a Turkish hilltop means they are bad faith actors ("covering up something/ preventing acdcess to something/ and allowing it to be destroyed"). They cannot understand that archaeologists say, "not necessarily" for good reason and from their bad faith viewpoint see that as sme kind of a nefarious plot or archaeologist (or a symptom of the alleged stupidity of archaeologist, because "its obvious - innit?"). What is obvious is that Maya pyramids or Cambodian temples in tropical forests suffer damage if tree roots penetrate between stones and as the tree grows and the roots get thicker, force the masonry apart. There are pictures of (relatively rare) situations where a tree growing in a crack in a rocj k has actually split a rock. I suspect these are the pictures that most easily comes to the mind of the enthusiast for history brought up on films of "secrets of the jungle" or that ilk. The truth is that all over the world reliefs, temples, sculptures and earthwork sites are recovered from jungle environments where there is no particularly serious damage. So it is a spectrum.

The other damaging mechanism is when a tree blows/falls over taking a root mat with it, ripping it out of the ground. Now that is damaging, though there are some prehistoric (some very very old) that consist of precisely such tree-root hollows with artefacts dropped or washed into them. I suspect a lot of these folk actually have no idea from direct observation how plants grow and therefore have little idea of the mechanisms of how roots actually grow. They should plant some cress seeds on a wet piece of cloth on a saucer on the window sill, do bonsai, or buy one of those cat-grass kits from a pet shop (give the kitty a treat).

[Just for completeness, I'll add that another situation where trees do mean instant site-death is under commercial forestry where 'pan-buster' ploughs are driven through the soil to be planted (or replanted) to a depth of a meter. I've excavated sites in Poland treated in this way, all you get is a load of soil to shift to find loose artefacts scattered. The stratigraphy has gone. But this is not "trees" but "Forestry workers". It goes on right across northern Europe, I think I've seen it discussed in the US literature too - perhaps Canada also does it? I don't know about commercial palm oil plantations. Total disaster for the archaeology.] 

Because of this, we get strange notions published in pseudoarchaeological literature, for example in the case of the Kensington Runestone where the section of how it was entangled in tree roots ("so in the ground a very long time") shows a tree growing in a manner that no tree would ever grow - especially in such waterlogged conditions as this findspot. This is odd because the story of its discovery claims the finder dug out the treestump - yet did not see how the roots actually ran?

All these people totally ignore the fact that most prehistoric and Roman (and indeed most medieval) archaeological sites in temperate Europe (and even Saharan North Africa in the African Humid Phase) were densely forested for hundreds of years before clearance in the early modern period. The earthwork sites, fields and settlements being discovered in the Amazonian rainforest are excavatable despite being covered by jungle for hundreds of years. So what do these people mean when they say that Gobekli Tepe would be "destroyed by tree roots"? 

When a tree grows, the roots penetrate the ground as fine filaments that work their way round harder elements, seeking moisture and nutrition. There is very little of that in the middle of a stone or potsherd (or flint or metal object), they go around them. As the root thickens over the years (and not all roots do)  the objects beside it may be shifted sideways, or up (rarer-down) a centimetre or so unless they are more massive  and resist - and then it is the root that expands laterally the other way. When that tree dies and the roots rot (which they invariably do) any displaced objects may get moved by soil processes (bioturbation, frost heaving) back to more or less where they were before the tree grew. If the tree blows over of course it is a different story. 

Another fact that becomes apparent when you decide to get rid of a fruit tree in your orchard, or remove a tree growing on the back lawn too close to the house is that most trees have extensive roots growing laterally, often pretty close to the ground surface and the number of roots growing downward (including the major tap-root) is relatively minimal in normal cases. This is due to the access to oxygen and nutrients from the humic layer (and leaf mould on the surface from the tree itself and its neighbours). This is what gives a heavy tree its stability. When a tree blows over it is the failure of these lateral roots that is the cause. The upshot of this that at Gobekli had the trees continued to grow, most of the roots would be in the top layers (ploughsoil, hillwash, backfill, disturbed upper layers) rather than the deeper stratigraphy under them (especially as this site was previously in part ploughed in the recent past).

Archaeologists, who excavate and examine very closely dozens, hundreds of sites, where trees have previously grown, or are growing or will grow, know very well the scale and results of the effects of their roots. In the case of Gobekli Tepe, several of us expressed the opinion that in the current situation, the damage to the site was not as extreme as the YouTuber rant-mob was claiming. For that, we got insulted, called all manner of names, even calls were made for two separate archaeologists - totally unconnected with the tree-planting - should "lose their jobs" because they were not joining in with the online Turk-hating campaign. Irritatingly this was by people that I'd be willing to bet the majority of had never held a tree root in their hands in their sad lives.  

Anyway, the trees have been cut down to just above the ground surface (there was talk some had been "moved", I'm not clear if that is true and this would mean digging up quite a lot of soil with the roots). 

But the orientalist Turk-bashing goes on. Not even that satisfies the mob in America seeking affirmation of their own "superiority". The Turks "must" have done something wrong - there "must" be a way to show how "stupid" and "ignorant:" these brown-skinned foreign folk are.  So we see comments like this one by US "archaeoastronomer" and author (of "Searching for Osiris and The Tree of Life" etc ) RN Vooght
RN Vooght 𓁀𓀳 𓁢 𓂀 @VooghtRN Apr 3 2025
Removing them won't do anything, bud. The olive tree aka the immortal olive, continues to shoot from the root system after felling. The damage is irreparable. The builders of Gobekli Tepe were far brighter than those charged with maintaining it. It's Stone Age Archeology.

There is something tragi-comic about a guy in Trump's America writing in US English (not Turkish) addressing, apparently, the authorities in Turkey, one of the world's biggest olive producers - informing them "how olive trees grow" and how "incompetent" they are to think they have solved this problem. The guy seems not to have noted the significance of the fact that in the latest material we see slocks of sheep shepherded into the fields where the tree stumps are. One could spray or impregnate the stumps to prevent them from shooting, but a far more ecological approach is to use sheep to periodically nibble the new shoots. Perhaps, Mr Vooght, there are some people in Turkey that know as much, and indeed much more about site management than you do. Just reflect on that. 


Friday, 26 December 2025

MAGAmerican Archaeology Grabfest Concept for Gobekli Tepe on YouTube (Some People Never Learn II)


    No flowery shirt today, but just as apodictically Karenish and squeaky.    


Arizonan ex-store detective Jimmy Corsetti has never read an archaeology book in his life. But he's confident he knows "all about" the discipline. So here in his shouty video "What They FOUND at Gobekli Tepe MUST be Addressed..." (Bright Insight, Dec 23, 2025) he shares his wisdom with his 1.7 million followers, based on the rather simplistic and ill-informed principle that "the truth as to what this ancient site actually was is written (sic) on the pillars themselves":
"I tell you that there's been an egregiously unacceptable lack of excavations at Göbekli Tepe. I usually point out that approximately 128 pillars of the 200 they know exist are still completely buried in the earth, and again, many of which have only been partially excavated and haven't been fully seen or documented as they've been left partially buried, which if you ask me is insane considering that they could physically do it in a single day if they actually wanted to. In fact, just look at the vast portions of dirt and rubble that have been left "in situ" (which means they've been left exactly as archaeologists originally found it during their initial excavations). And notice that so much of this one confined area of Göbekli Tepe is still totally consumed (sic, he means 'concealed') with dirt, stone, and rubble that is yet to be removed. What are archaeologists even doing out here? Seriously, take a look and notice that there is an enormous amount of debris still covering the entire site and ask yourself how this is all they've managed to dig and excavate over the last 30 years since excavations began in 1995. Just look at it, as pictures are worth a thousand words.

And you know what? I'll take it a step further. Archaeologists will hate me for what I'm about to say, but I'm going to say it anyway because it is the truth.

Excavating Gobecée is easy. It is a literal rubble removal project, and I'm not joking.

So much of this site could easily be excavated if they got a few dozen archaeologists to work as a human chain and physically remove one stone after the other, and they could easily do this all while taking safe care of the archaeology itself, and while thoroughly documenting every bit of the archaeological fragments they find as they go, with the use of numerous cameras, LIDAR (sic!) scanning, and including 360° filming while simultaneously removing all this debris. They could record every bit of it for their own archaeological documentation purposes and get this dirt and rubble the hell out of there in a remarkably short period of time if they actually wanted to."
What is galling about this is that Corsetti has been told several times when he's said the exact same things where he is misrepresenting the nature of the stratigraphy of the site, and the complexity of dissection and recording them, while leaving a site to be visited, displayed and interpreted.

Archaeologically, the "pictures" (not writing) on the pillarss, and the other scupltures do not tell anything like the full truth/story about the site. They are a single component of the archaeological record there (and the other Tas Tepeler sites). So Corsetti's wrong from the outset, as well as demonstrating his total incapacity to learn from what people havce taken the time to try to explain to him..

The claim that Göbekli Tepe could be excavated in a single day—or even a very short time—by simply removing “dirt and rubble” reflects a profound misunderstanding of what the site consists of, how archaeological knowledge is produced, and what excavation actually destroys. Far from being a straightforward clearance operation, Göbekli Tepe is an exceptionally complex archaeological palimpsest in which context, not a heap of dugup objects, is the primary source of information.

First, the material described dismissively by Corsetti as “dirt” is in fact highly structured stratigraphy. At Göbekli Tepe, the fill is neither random nor accidental. Much of it represents accumulation of material from downslope slippage, but also probably dumping and levelling operations during the use, and later abandonmenbt of the area. These deposits contain patterned distributions of lithics, faunal remains, architectural debris, and sediments that record distinct episodes of use, modification, and intentional burial. Removing this material wholesale would permanently erase the very evidence that allows archaeologists to reconstruct chronology, ritual practice, construction sequences, and site function. Once a stratigraphic layer is removed without controlled excavation, its information is irretrievably lost, no amount of video recording or post hoc digital modelling can restore it. The same principles apply if the excavation is in the USA or here in the Middle east.

Second, what is characterised by the YouTuber as “rubble” frequently consists of architectural elements, including dry-stone walls, sockets for T-pillars, prepared floors, and collapsed or dismantled structural components. These are not interchangeable stones but parts of engineered systems whose meaning lies in their precise spatial relationships. Excavation therefore proceeds at the scale of centimetres, not truckloads, because understanding how stones relate to one another is more important than removing them quickly. Treating the remains of architecture as bothersome "debris" obscuring the decorative scheme utterly misunderstands the difference between construction waste and construction evidence and how that evidence is read.

Third, the suggestion that comprehensive documentation could be achieved through cameras, LiDAR, and 360° filming conflates recording mere appearance with recording archaeological relationships. Archaeological documentation is not a matter of visual capture alone. It involves interpreting interfaces between layers, identifying subtle soil changes, recognising negative features such as cuts and fills, and continuously revising hypotheses as new relationships emerge. These decisions are made during excavation and depend on slow, iterative and expert human judgment. Technologies like photogrammetry and laser scanning are valuable supplements, but they do not replace stratigraphic reasoning; nor do they permit excavation to be “sped up” without sacrificing analytical resolution.

Fourth, it cannot be stressed enough that excavation is inherently destructive. To excavate a site is to dismantle it permanently. For a site as unique as Göbekli Tepe this imposes a strong ethical obligation to proceed cautiously, selectively, and reversibly where possible. The evidence can be sampled, removing the bare minimum to answer specific previously carefully-formulated research questions. Leaving large portions unexcavated is not evidence of neglect or incompetence; it is a deliberate strategy that preserves parts of the site for future research questions, improved methods, and future generations. Rapid excavation would exhaust this non-renewable resource in the service of spectacle and sensation rather than understanding.

Finally, Göbekli Tepe is not a single structure but a multi-layered tell spanning centuries of activity, erosion, reuse, and disuse. Excavating “everything” quickly would collapse these temporal distinctions into an undifferentiated mass, undermining the very reason the site matters scientifically. The slow pace of excavation is not a logistical failure but a reflection of the site’s density, fragility, and interpretive importance.

Why does Corsetti have such a difficuly grasping what seems to me to be a pretty simple concept?

In short, Göbekli Tepe cannot be excavated quickly because it is not an obstacle to be cleared but a record to be read—one written in fragile layers, spatial relationships, and intentional acts of construction and concealment. The idea that it could be stripped in a day rests on a category error: mistaking archaeology for earthmoving, and documentation for understanding.

Friday, 10 April 2026

Amateur Attemps to Redate Gobekli Tepe.


            The beer glasses don't move                  

The weedy man-bunned Hungarian podcaster Károly Póka with the immobile Guiness-glass affectation sat down with Kyle Allen from the ‪@BrothersOfTheSerpent‬ Youtube channel (that he runs with his brother Russell, exploring ancient mysteries, megalithic sites, and the deep history of our civilization). In the episode "Göbekli Tepe: Older Than We’re Told? (Kyle Allen – Ancient Technology Podcast)", Allen pontificates for hours over "what the T-shaped pillars actually tell us, how reliable the current dating of the site really is, who the people behind these megaliths might have been, and why Göbekli Tepe continues to challenge the mainstream timeline of human history". The latter is a red flag, as in the specialist literature in several languages for 26 years Gobekli Tepe and the other Tas Tepeler sites have been writing the mainstream vies of the Natufian/Pre-potter Neolithic A transition and all that relates to that.

In the discussion of Göbekli Tepe, Allen presents a loosely assembled case for pushing the site’s origins further back in time than the dates established by archaeologists, but his argument ultimately rests less on evidence than on a generalized distrust of the field itself. Although the site has been excavated and studied intensively for over two decades following its identification by Klaus Schmidt, and dated to the Pre-Pottery Neolithic period, roughly the tenth millennium BCE, Allen suggests that the monumental T-shaped pillars may be older than the materials used to date them. He arrives at this conclusion despite openly acknowledging that he has not properly engaged with the archaeological literature and, at points, struggling to articulate basic concepts drawn from the small portion he has encountered.

His reasoning begins with the observation that the stratigraphy of the site appears complex and, in places, disturbed. From this he infers that the layering cannot be trusted, proposing that natural processes such as slope collapse or seismic activity repeatedly buried and re-exposed the structures, thereby scrambling the sequence of deposits. He extends this line of thought by referring to studies of earthquake damage, noting that some pillars fractured while partially buried, which he takes as evidence that they must predate the layers surrounding them. He also argues that the enclosing stone walls must be later additions because they obscure parts of the carved pillars and, in his view, represent an inferior structural design, leading him to conclude that the megaliths belong to an earlier, separate phase of construction. Further doubt is cast, in his account, on radiocarbon dating itself, which he treats as unreliable due to contamination, mixing of materials, or chemical alteration, suggesting that the dates obtained may reflect later activity rather than the original building phase. Finally, he points to the large accumulation of midden deposits as evidence for long-term, repeated use, including episodes of burial and re-excavation, from which he infers that the initial construction could be significantly older than currently believed.

Taken together, these claims amount to a speculative reinterpretation of the site that substitutes suspicion for method. The difficulties he highlights (disturbed stratigraphy, site formation processes, reuse of structures, and challenges in dating) are not overlooked problems but precisely the kinds of issues that archaeologists working at Göbekli Tepe have spent years documenting, analysing, and incorporating into a coherent chronological framework. The consistency of radiocarbon dates from secure contexts, the typology of stone tools, and the broader regional comparisons all converge on the same timeframe. Allen’s argument does not meaningfully engage with this body of evidence; instead, it relies on partial understanding, selective emphasis, and an underlying assumption that the specialists who have studied the site in detail are fundamentally mistaken. In that sense, his position is not an alternative interpretation grounded in new data, but a rejection of established conclusions without the methodological or evidentiary basis required to support it. Bits of it, he just invents, and persists in shieling his coneptions from question by claiming he "can't remember the details".

Monday, 7 April 2025

Mike Collins' "Shocking Film" on Archaeological Malpractice at Gobekli Tepe (VII): Final Thoughts on Throwing Stones Into the Void of Ignorance


This series of texts considers a video that is a continuation of the onslaught of US "content creators" on the site of Gobekli Tepe and the activities of those involved in its investigation and preservation. Masquerading as an expression of "concern", this video is instead a further example of clickbait-seeking divisive hate-prose that characterises their output. 

In the text "What Jimmy Corsetti sees (and misses)", although it can easily be seen that the excavation site reveals a complex stratigraphy with multiple building phases, and episodes of wall rebuilds, Jimnmy Corsetti's onsite rant reveals he understands virtually nothing of this. He clearly cannot see how the site has been excavated and has no idea whatsoever of what is involved in digging and recording such a sequence or the measures imposed due to conservation policies. Jimmy Corsetti in his ignorance, merely misrepresents the site as simply "a pile of stones" and seems unaware of the excavation methods or stratified context documented in the reports he likely hasn't read.

In the next section, the roofing of the site,  a carefully considered conservation solution, it is heavily misrepresented by uninformed critics online. There are established practices in archaeological site protection and the roofing at Göbekli Tepe sits firmly in among them and represents a thoughtful compromise between preservation and visibility. It protects the site from environmental damage, avoids deep intrusive anchoring, and maintains a minimal visual and physical footprint. Critics, especially from the U.S., often fail to understand these issues due to a lack of comparable heritage displays at home and their obvious ignorance of the well-established body of specialist literature. 

The frustration Corsetti expresses here about not having more pillars dug up stems from a fundamental misunderstanding of what archaeology actually involves. To him and others with a collector’s mindset, sites like Göbekli Tepe are just treasure troves of mysterious objects, particularly the T-shaped pillars, which they believe should be rapidly uncovered for display. They disregard the importance of stratigraphy, context, and meticulous documentation, seeing the remaining unexcavated areas as a wasted opportunity rather than preserved heritage. In contrast, archaeologists are focused on interpreting complex layers of earth and construction over time—work that requires patience, precision, and deep contextual analysis, not brute-force methods like water jets.

The third text "Jimmy Corsetti Knows Eff-All About this Site (part two - "no landslide here")" shows how Corsetti once again oversimplifies a complex archaeological issue—this time, the question of whether the depression beside the tell was deliberately filled or the result of natural slope processes. Despite limited published data and missing contextual evidence, Corsetti scornfully claims with unwarranted certainty to see what trained archaeologists working there for many seasons allegedly cannot. His approach is marked by arrogance and a lack of understanding of stratigraphy, dismissing expert interpretations in favour of his own untrained "common sense" conclusions.  Corsetti’s confidence is completely misplaced. He misinterprets a complex, multi-phase stratigraphy as a single event, assuming all visible features date to the same phase. He fails to recognize that the site shows evidence of at least three distinct phases of activity. The "stacked stones" he focuses on belong to later structures that post-date the filled-in sunken enclosures with the T-pillars—explaining why they remain intact. He mistakenly sees this as a "gotcha" moment, but in fact, it just exposes his ignorance. Even when shown a trench edge with clear signs of hillwash in the section, Corsetti and his fellow YouTubers completely miss its significance, fixating instead on the "damage" they think they’re exposing.

The fourth text "Mike Collins Decries Lack of Altruism and Excavation". He criticizes the site’s development for tourism—gift shops, shuttle buses, and walkways—seeing it as a troubling shift toward profit over preservation. But this view ignores a long history of cultural tourism, which has long been a key driver not only of public interest, but above all incentives for funding, and preservation in archaeology. I find Collins’s dismay on this count  misplaced.

I suggest the real issue for him, is that further excavation beneath the walkway might not happen—meaning fewer pillar carvings for YouTube content. This is a narrowly-blinkered view. Looking outside that box, in reality, archaeological research may already have gathered sufficient data about the site as a whole, and continuing to dig might not be justified in the light of broader regional and national research aims. 

Collins also fails to understand the practical and archaeological reasoning behind the placement of the walkway: it was positioned over already-excavated areas to avoid damaging unexcavated parts of the tell, which itself is archaeologically sensitive. His suggestions reveal a fundamental lack of understanding of how archaeological sites are managed and presented and again derive from a lack of proper reading.

The fifth text "The Lady Content-Maker's Reaction" , the remarks of U.S. blogger Nikkiana Jones, a self-described “truth seeker” reveal that it is not only Corsetti and Collins who came to the site ill-prepared to comprehend what there was there to see. Jones expresses confusion about basic aspects of the site—uncertain if it was buried, how it was discovered, or what the surrounding area might contain—despite being accompanied by two men claiming to be well-informed critics of the excavation. The speaker points out the irony that Collins and Corsetti, so intent on accusing archaeologists of errors and cover-ups, apparently failed to explain even the basic context of the site to their guest. Jones’s vague impressions—like puzzlement over “weird plaster” and the presence of sheep—highlight the missed educational opportunity. The site’s interpretive centre is intended to provide such context, especially about the significant transition from foraging to farming, but in this case, it seems little meaningful learning took place.

The sixth text examines the claims of the  U.S.-based pseudoarchaeologist YouTubers—especially Jimmy Corsetti—that only they raised concerns about olive trees planted on the unexcavated areas of Göbekli Tepe, while Turkish authorities, archaeologists, and conservationists supposedly ignored the issue. It seems to me (given the degree of damage actually being done) that these concerns were exaggerated for clickbait and revenue, relying on sensationalism and a layman's perspective rather than informed analysis. 

When the trees were eventually removed, Corsetti claimed credit for prompting the change. The subsequent video (ostensibly documenting this), however, offered little actual information about the trees, their cultural significance in the region, or how their removal was handled. Crucially, no Turkish voices were included to explain the context or confirm Corsetti’s supposed impact. The piece concludes that the YouTubers’ true aim in making this video wasn’t documentation or insight, but to manufacture controversy now that the original issue—olive trees—could no longer generate outrage or views. 

Yet this turned out to be an exercise in throwing stones into the Void of Ignorance as the spoken texts of this video reveal how much this party, Jimmy Corsetti, Mike Collins and Nikiana Jones, is basing their imagined  entitlement, loud, insulting and disrespectful criticism and judgemental disregard of archaeologists, academia and the Turkish people and authorities on fundamental misconceptions. Plus outright ignorance. Dunning-Kruger in action.

To access the introduction to this series and the links to the other posts in it please go here (for other posts on this blog about Gobekli Tepe see here) 







Mike Collins' "Shocking Film" on Alleged Archaeological Malpractice at Gobekli Tepe (II): What Jimmy Corsetti sees (and misses)



Jimmy Corsetti introduces this film with the words: "A detailed analysis of the dire circumstances occurring at Gobekli Tepe, and some awesome behind the scenes shots of when I “snuck” into Gobekli Tepe with him. It's worse than I thought"... Wandering Wolf Productions (@WWolfProd) "Gobekli Tepe: Olive Trees Removed! Shocking Footage! (2025 Update) w/‪@BrightInsight‬ and ‪@NikkianaJones‬ @WWolfProd"

I am going to discuss this in several parts, this is the second of several. This is the first part of what Jimmy Corsetti (on site apparently hungover, unshaven with dark glasses and a wide-brimmed hat to shield his eyes) has to say about how he understands the site (the second part will follow). 

This video is a perfect example of Brandolini's law (or the bullshit asymmetry principle) in action. This states there is an asymmetry between the considerable effort of debunking misinformation and the relative ease of maliciously or negligently creating it in the first place.  Given the constant barrage of this sort of crap from under-informed but mouthy internet know-it-alls like Mr Corsetti, it is not surprising that the excavation team has not the time to keep up with it all.  

This part of the video in particular is distressing watching. I have always said that archaeology is not rocket science" and the mouthy US YouTubers in this video clearly think they understand everything about the discipline and as such are uniquely entitled to trash the work of the DAI archaeological team, the Turkish heritage management officers and any other archaeologist attempting to engage with them. This disregard comes out very well in this video. What also comes over in this video is that all three of these "content producers" understand about as much of what they are looking at as one of the goats in the fields outside the fence. Zero. That is despite them writing pages and pages of rant about how "only they" "know" what's what here. What a total eyeopener, on watching this, it seems I might have severely overestimated the understanding of members of the public. 

Although the film editor Mike Collins drops some real howlers in the first part and at the end, I propose in this post concentrating on the central part of the video. Jimmy Corsetti explaining what he thinks he sees when on the walkway looking directly down onto the site. A site he's been reading and writing about now for at least eight years. Let me remind everyone what the site looks like, what he is looking at. What do you see here? 


And what does Jimmy Corsetti see? (he was standing overlooking the area in the bottom right hand side of this vertical shot)   Here's the video (transcript below)


Posted on You Tube by Wandering Wolf​ 3rd April 2025.

Here's an edited transcript of what he had to say:
"So, I’ve been out here and just got back—been walking around for about 30 minutes. A few things stand out, one of which is, this is worse than I thot. Look at all this debris. These stones—there’s so much that could stand to be removed. Are you telling me they couldn’t have cleared more than this by now?(1)
If you really stop and study the site, it’s hard to understand how they haven’t cleared more of it. All the photos I’ve seen online didn’t truly convey the reality. They didn’t paint a full picture of just how much more of this could’ve already been excavated. That’s number one..

Number two, this infrastructure they’ve put in—the viewing platforms, the steel frames stabbing directly into the archaeological site itself (2). That tells me there’s no real intention to fully excavate the area. They’d have to dismantle those platforms to do it, end of.  
Number three — this whole debate about whether the site was purposely buried or just covered by natural landslides (3). What archaeologists are now saying is, “No, no, it was a result of landslides from the hill above.” But I’m looking at that hill right now, and I’m sorry—it just doesn’t add up. The hill is right there, and yet the pillars are still standing upright, surrounded by these stones. If this was a landslide, those pillars would’ve been knocked over or destroyed. But they weren’t. This gives every reason to believe that the stones were intentionally stacked and that the site was purposely buried, just like Klaus Schmidt—the original archaeologist here—originally thought. I’m just not seeing how that little hill could explain all of this. It’s not big enough to justify saying it slid down in multiple landslides over time. No. Like that, I don't.. do they buy that? I’ve got extensive video and photos from up there. I’ve looked. It just doesn’t make sense to me. In my mind, everything here validates the idea of intentional burial.

But honestly, man, my big takeaway, my gut reaction, is just this: treally? hey could’ve removed more by now. Look at all these stones. Look at all this, how much is still buried. Why haven’t they done it ? It’s either that they won’t—or at least, they haven’t—and that’s inexcusable (4). From an archaeological excavation standpoint, this is actually worse than I thot. [...] There’s more to see, sure, but from what I’ve already seen?  I am disappointed. The excavation is worse than I thought. I don’t know what else to say.  Are you seeing what I’m seeing? Even just removing a few more feet of earth would make a difference. So why haven’t they done it? There are still plenty of pillars buried in the earth all the way around here. Why won’t they excavate those? Why won’t they expose what’s depicted on them?  Because as it stands now, most of the pillars are still so deeply buried that you can’t even see what’s carved into them. And if they’re not going to uncover that — man, get out of here."

Where to begin? 

(1) "All this debris", "These stones", "look at all these stones" , "a few more feet of earth". Look at the vertical view of the site above. [Rightly or wrongly], the archaeologists have just removed the infill of several sunken oval structures with stone T-shaped pillars together with parts of the upper layers of adjacent areas. They have stopped when they hit structures - such as walls which are left in situ. We can see there are many phases of intercutting and abutting walls, in several areas many forming concentric vertical layers around a central open space like a section through an onion. In among them are the pillars, some are standing free within the enclosed space, others are embedded in the outermost (innermost in terms of the internal space) wall rebuild, but others are embedded in the walls behind them. [I do not know what the excavators make of this, I would guess that one possible interpretation is that this site was been used seasonally and between phases of use the oval structures became a bit dilapidated and had to be repaired, and instead of dismantling them and rebuilding them to save time this was done by adding another layer of wall on the face of the previous one where necessary]. But Mr Corsetti sees here just "pillars with the pictures on them covered by stones".

In excavation, the diggers have only exposed the minimum required by the research programme, to begin dismantling the sequence of the walls that we see preserved would be an extremely complicated task [and to my eye impossible without applying single-context recording which I am pretty sure looking at the trenches was not the method used to excavate this so far - more like an adaption of a Kenyon-type technique?]. And wisely, the excavators have not attempted this. Perhaps in fact they are forbidden by the conservation authorities who want to to preserve (rather than dismantle) the site. [But they do need to record the exposed surface and amalgamate that with the data on what was removed and what was in that fill (I'd suggest - if that's not what they've done - reverse engineering the record as far as possible into a single-context record)].

It seems Jimmy Corsetti sees here a "pile of stones" (elsewhere he speaks of "stacked stones") that could easily be removed (in one of his rants on X he speaks of his puzzlement that it's enough just to get a "water jet" on the site to reveal the pillars and the pictures on them). He simply cannot see (even standing on a walkway looking down directly onto them with an explanatory table by the side) the complex stratigraphy. The many phases of the wall rebuilds with separate phases of pillar placement are invisible to him. 

What he also seems not to understand is (b) these "microphases" of wall replacement are situated within several distinct periods of building. In earlier reports the excavators confusingly labelled them "layers 1, 2 and 3" [which I would say unequivocally is a methodological mistake]. There are however untouched deposits under some of them - where not dug away by the construction of the oval sunken structures. These occupy a depression in the side of the hill (or are they cut into the side of the tell?). On the rim of the depression are a series of smaller oval and rectangular structures (possibly some are houses or stores) built at a higher level than the sunken buildings. Some of them are contemporary with the sunken ones, some a later period of construction.  

Its all in the interim reports. I bet Corsetti has not read a word of them. 

(2) The roofing: Basically after excavation and recording, two things could happen to this site. The You Tuber haters are morons and they don't know anything about this. This is despite the fact that there is a very copious literature on the topic (some of it indeed published in the USA, by the Getty Institute for example), there is even a whole journal series published by Taylor and Francis (Conservation and Management of Archaeological Sites, now in its 27th volume). There are whole specialist university course units on the issues, and literature reviews. The issue is treated as integral in other general considerations of archaeological heritage conservation and management (for example, among others, in the thought-provoking book by Brian J. Egloff  2019). A lot of information produced by experienced specialists in teh field is available online. But these know-it-alls are too arrogant to even think of turning to it to learn something about these issues. Part of the problem is that they do not have anything much at home in the US to compare it with, though right across Europe such in situ displays (York, St Albans, Kraków, Wrocław, Warsaw) are relatively common. Most of them really excellent educational resources. In the USA there is nothing much.  

A) The most preferable would be to smooth the contours of the excavation by gently shovelling in inert coarse grained sand or fine grit, overlay that with porous polythene netting or geotextile and then backfilling the trenches to the original ground surface. That's what we did, for example on the baths Basilica site at Wroxeter (also only excavated down to the basilica floor - leaving underlying layers of the town and fort unexplored). And as was done at Wroxeter, a layer of stones (preferably a distinctively non-local type) could be used to outline (or imitate) the layout of the ruins buried far below as something for visitors to see. They could mark the position of the pillars preserved below, and exhibit casts of the most interesting. That's the low-maintenance and preservation-oriented variant. It's also earthquake proof, an deters looters. The backfill can always be removed should the excavation be continued if a generation from now it was decided to do this. But is is rather disneylandish and not always a good solution. 

B) The site can be displayed in situ in the open air. This is a problem, there will be damage to some elements by capillary action from below pulling water out of the damp subsoil (then this creates salt efflorescence, mould growth, staining). Delicate elements will be exposed to weathering. Rainfall will also move sediment, washing soil from raised areas and depositing it in lower areas. Also small material such as seeds and charcoal may move around by bioturbation of the soil layers if the site is left open. Also if the site is left open, weeds and then other plants will grow unless the site is sprayed (but chemical spraying may affect buried materials. As long ago as the 1950s, archaeologists were being urged by international conventions to backfill sites after excavation to avoid these problems.  

Schematic, showing approx outline |
of roofed area and anchor struts (PMB)


An alternative that is a form of compromise is to build a structure over the site to protect it from the elements (and also to allow the soil underneath to dry out - reducing the capillary effect). That does not always happen and some site covering buildings are notorious condensation traps. 

The idea of a cover building is the one adopted at Gobekli Tepe, but in a very specific way. 

As noted above, the haters discussed here seem not to be the brightest knives in the drawer when it comes to appreciating things.  The roof at Gobekli Tepe is actually very well designed, both in terms of its purpose as well as aesthetically. It blends in with the landscape much better than the clunky and ugly American ones of my other post. It is light, airy (allows the wind to pass through and air circulate avoiding the condensation problem. 

Above all, and despite what the US blind-with-hatred YouTubers say, has a pretty minimal footprint. Take a look. There is a rigid steel-framed aerial walkway going round the site (it is not round but meanders to give the best possible view of the ruins displayed underneath). On one side it rests on the ground surface at the excavation edge (in part supported by sandbags) but on two sides it is supported by anchor struts. From the documentation these tourists made to show how "scandalous" that is, one can see there are two pairs in a V-shape anchored to one cement foundation and four single ones. the posts therefore enter the site in six places. In several it seems the points chosen had already been excavated to bedrock level, in at least two there were holes excavated for this (in one of the reports published - the stone vessels on I think, there is a record of some of these holes, they were excavated and recorded like the rest of the site). What's the problem? 

Above all, let us note the whole area is spanned by a lightweight (and easily replaceable) cover of some form of (I presume) heavy-duty textile - like a sports stadium. This means the entire centre of the site is totally free of any vertical supports allowing the ruins to be seen without any encumbrance. 

But look further. What is the roof standing on? It is standing on and anchored to the walkway, not dug into the site. It seems to me that a really good compromise has been reached here and the architects of this design need praise, not the slanderous and ignorant clickbait attacks of some hate-filled and supercilious people who have not got the first idea about what they are ranting about. Shame on them.  
 
(3) Site purposely buried or just covered by natural slope processes?  
I am going to cover this in the next post. The pseudoarchaeologists love the interpretation that the original excavator suggested of the deliberate burial because it gives the site a greater "mystery", it was deliberately buried... why? They say its because it is a "hidden message for future generations" a "warning". Modern observers fail to credit the degree to which catastrophism plays in pseudoarchaeological interpretations.  So Corsetti wants to hang onto this notion.  

(4) Buried Pillar frustrations underlying all of this is a total misunderstanding of why archaeological sites are excavated and what they consist of. For Corsetti and all the rest, archaeologists dig holes to find and uncover "old things" or "mysteries". This is the same model (of the collectors, museums staff , dealers and trade lobbyists) that sees artefacts as "ancient art" with a "message" independent of an archaeological context.  It is the same model applied to the arkies that want to collaborate with artefact hunters, to get their hands on the "artefacts-as-data" (again ignoring context and site preservation issues).  For Corsetti, this site is nothing but a collection of intriguing pillars (with a "message") with "some stones around them" and the tragedy is that "90% remains buried. An estimated 128 T-Pillars await excavation". So the stratigraphy is of no interest at all (just as long as you can say from it that the site was intentionally backfilled, eh?). 

Needless to say the team excavating the site see the issue quite differently. Indeed at this moment they are probably sitting going through all those plans, context sheets/notebooks, sections looking at those myriad layers of earth and stones, trying to read that stratigraphy in more detail.

This is work that Corsetti, Collins and Jones have no concept of at all. They just rant that it is taking so long, time when the diggers could be digging out MORE..... Corsetti even suggests in one of his posts that it would go faster if they used "water jets" to shift the soil. 

To access the introduction and the links to the other posts in this series please go here (for other posts on this blog about Gobekli Tepe see here)